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		<title>By: justsoyouknow</title>
		<link>http://www.makestupidityhistory.org/2005/07/20/teaching-ebonics-in-school/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>justsoyouknow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 03:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to say that some people are put through more of a struggle than others, especially minorites. A minority could be in the same situation and someone of the majority and have more struggle than the other. Believe it or not, race is still a big problem in this world. Also, for later preference, we don&#039;t like to be compared to &quot;fucking purple&quot;. The race may be called &quot;Black&quot; but it doesnt mean we like to be compared to colors of the rainbow. I&#039;m sure you don&#039;t either. I don&#039;t want to be that person, but your grammar and spelling was driving me crazy so I had to comment. Also, I&#039;m 18 years old and half black and I can type in proper English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say that some people are put through more of a struggle than others, especially minorites. A minority could be in the same situation and someone of the majority and have more struggle than the other. Believe it or not, race is still a big problem in this world. Also, for later preference, we don&#8217;t like to be compared to &#8220;fucking purple&#8221;. The race may be called &#8220;Black&#8221; but it doesnt mean we like to be compared to colors of the rainbow. I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t either. I don&#8217;t want to be that person, but your grammar and spelling was driving me crazy so I had to comment. Also, I&#8217;m 18 years old and half black and I can type in proper English.</p>
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		<title>By: GL</title>
		<link>http://www.makestupidityhistory.org/2005/07/20/teaching-ebonics-in-school/#comment-710</link>
		<dc:creator>GL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it makes a person sound uneducated if they speak Ebonics, slang, &quot;REV-Redneck Lingo&quot;. What happened to all the English classes which taught us to speak properly? I don&#039;t care what a persons color of skin may be. If there is an attorney who spoke slang of any type I would not take him serious and avoid him/her at all cost. I correct my children all the time because we live in a town where we have Ebonics and Country Slang.  I want my children to be able to say Wash not Worsh! Ick so sloppy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it makes a person sound uneducated if they speak Ebonics, slang, &#8220;REV-Redneck Lingo&#8221;. What happened to all the English classes which taught us to speak properly? I don&#8217;t care what a persons color of skin may be. If there is an attorney who spoke slang of any type I would not take him serious and avoid him/her at all cost. I correct my children all the time because we live in a town where we have Ebonics and Country Slang.  I want my children to be able to say Wash not Worsh! Ick so sloppy!</p>
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		<title>By: Everett Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.makestupidityhistory.org/2005/07/20/teaching-ebonics-in-school/#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>Everett Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Negro male I think it is offensive that people of my race can sound so stupid.  Before you start in on my use of Negro there are only three distinct races Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid.  No such thing as African American, and how do blacks know they all came from Africa? I am an Negro American and have never been nor have I wanted to live and associate with Africa.  Look at much of Africa and their culture today it hasn&#039;t changed in thousands of years. I didn&#039;t grow-up as an African but as a black man in Louisville KY, born in 1950, to American parents, as were my grandparents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Negro male I think it is offensive that people of my race can sound so stupid.  Before you start in on my use of Negro there are only three distinct races Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid.  No such thing as African American, and how do blacks know they all came from Africa? I am an Negro American and have never been nor have I wanted to live and associate with Africa.  Look at much of Africa and their culture today it hasn&#8217;t changed in thousands of years. I didn&#8217;t grow-up as an African but as a black man in Louisville KY, born in 1950, to American parents, as were my grandparents.</p>
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		<title>By: Everett Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.makestupidityhistory.org/2005/07/20/teaching-ebonics-in-school/#comment-692</link>
		<dc:creator>Everett Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The English language is one of the most complex languages to teach people.&quot;

You got to be kidding, when a child grows up in a home they aren&#039;t studying a foreign language it is the words they hear mom and dad speak then repeat them back. No studying to it, blacks have no EXCUSE, they have been two hundred years and still don&#039;t know English, GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK. Blacks need to grownup, but people like SOME HERE are not their friends, because they make liberal minded excuses for stupidity thus holding them back.  My mother would have beat me to death if I had spoke Ebonics.  I&#039;m not a smart person by any means and grew-up around ignorant talk like ebonics but my mother would NOT allow it in our HOME, God bless HER memory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The English language is one of the most complex languages to teach people.&#8221;</p>
<p>You got to be kidding, when a child grows up in a home they aren&#8217;t studying a foreign language it is the words they hear mom and dad speak then repeat them back. No studying to it, blacks have no EXCUSE, they have been two hundred years and still don&#8217;t know English, GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK. Blacks need to grownup, but people like SOME HERE are not their friends, because they make liberal minded excuses for stupidity thus holding them back.  My mother would have beat me to death if I had spoke Ebonics.  I&#8217;m not a smart person by any means and grew-up around ignorant talk like ebonics but my mother would NOT allow it in our HOME, God bless HER memory.</p>
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		<title>By: Everett Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.makestupidityhistory.org/2005/07/20/teaching-ebonics-in-school/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>Everett Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“why you do that?” instead of “why did you do that?” then it would be considered ebonics.&quot;

Wrong Ebonics would be &quot;Why doze you did dat&quot;, or Example, Standard English for &quot;I made love to her all night&quot;, Ebonics &quot;I bee slapin widt my ho all las nite&quot;.

They&#039;re trying to make stupid people look less stupid by saying they are speaking a language.  When I was a kid in KY ignorant people would say &quot;how fer is it to the store?&quot; My mother would say &quot;if i ever hear you use &quot;fer&quot; I&#039;ll wear you out, do you get that?&quot; So what you have is stupid parents letting their children be just a stupid, NOW GO LOOK FOR A JOB WITH YOUR EBONICS.  It&#039;s not a language it&#039;s stupidity on display with the approval of other blacks to make it seem less stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“why you do that?” instead of “why did you do that?” then it would be considered ebonics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong Ebonics would be &#8220;Why doze you did dat&#8221;, or Example, Standard English for &#8220;I made love to her all night&#8221;, Ebonics &#8220;I bee slapin widt my ho all las nite&#8221;.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re trying to make stupid people look less stupid by saying they are speaking a language.  When I was a kid in KY ignorant people would say &#8220;how fer is it to the store?&#8221; My mother would say &#8220;if i ever hear you use &#8220;fer&#8221; I&#8217;ll wear you out, do you get that?&#8221; So what you have is stupid parents letting their children be just a stupid, NOW GO LOOK FOR A JOB WITH YOUR EBONICS.  It&#8217;s not a language it&#8217;s stupidity on display with the approval of other blacks to make it seem less stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://www.makestupidityhistory.org/2005/07/20/teaching-ebonics-in-school/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so stupid. Why does it matter that some people speak differently? If people are having such a problem, Why don&#039;t you teach them the correct way? Instead of making them feel wrong? I am a African American. And i do not speak that way. But nor do i discriminate against people who do, or do not. This is was Martin Luther King Jr. was against. People say we are all equal. But now this? Now we have to speak ebonics? And the government is trying to say African Americans can not vote? What is this all about? Are we really one union? Or are we going backwards again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so stupid. Why does it matter that some people speak differently? If people are having such a problem, Why don&#8217;t you teach them the correct way? Instead of making them feel wrong? I am a African American. And i do not speak that way. But nor do i discriminate against people who do, or do not. This is was Martin Luther King Jr. was against. People say we are all equal. But now this? Now we have to speak ebonics? And the government is trying to say African Americans can not vote? What is this all about? Are we really one union? Or are we going backwards again?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.makestupidityhistory.org/2005/07/20/teaching-ebonics-in-school/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blacks claim that racial discrimination is wrong. Yet, &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;some&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; blacks also claim that they are exempt from the obligation to speak correct English, on account of their skin color, whereas most of them seem to grasp the concept that there&#039;s nothing particularly wrong with expecting white folks to speak and write in accordance with widely accepted grammatical standards in this country if they expect to get ahead (particularly in relation to standardized tests for college admissions).

In other words, such people advocate a double standard, which is just another way of saying that they advocate a form of racial discrimination. Ironically, when they insist on speaking &quot;da&#039; way dey do in da&#039; hood&quot; (as if the &quot;th&quot; sound is just too hard to make for black folks) and when they suffer the predictable consequences because speaking that way &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;makes them sound stupid and uneducated to many potential employers&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, they then claim that they have suffered from racial discrimination, when the reality is that it is racially discriminatory to hold black folks to a different behavioral standard on account of their skin pigmentation. A similar phenomenon can be seen with regard to the constant use of certain types of profanity, such as the socially offensive word which refers to a person who commits maternal incest, and also to the &quot;n word&quot;, which one is apparently allowed to say if one is black, judging by the behavior of a lot of inner city black folks.

Thanks to the &quot;one drop rule,&quot; mixed race people such as Lena Horne and Halle Berry have often identified themselves as &quot;black,&quot; even though they sometimes have such light skin that they can easily pass as white. How are such people supposed to decide whether or not they&#039;re allowed to use &quot;ebonics&quot;? What&#039;s the rule of thumb? If you take an opinion poll and the majority says that one subjectively looks black or at least &quot;black enough,&quot; then ebonics is O.K. or even expected? Talk about arbitrary!

I grew up in the Ozarks. Some of the people there spoke in a grammatically proper manner (as did I, thanks in part to the good influence of my maternal grandmother, who was an English teacher). Others (some of whom might have been described as &quot;hillbillies&quot;) did not. But we didn&#039;t call it &quot;hillbonics&quot; or anything of the sort. We called it improper grammar, because that&#039;s what it was. It is a disservice to children to teach them that ebonics is acceptable, because whether one likes it or not, the decision makers in this country do judge by first impressions. Speaking ebonics suggests that a person never paid close attention in the classroom, if he or she even went to class at all.

I guarantee you that Barack Obama never would have been elected President if he&#039;d spoken the way that a lot of the blacks in Chicago speak. Perhaps if he&#039;d just wanted to be elected alderman in a predominantly black ward, folks there wouldn&#039;t have cared (unless he&#039;d been a Republican, in which case he could just about kiss his chances of election goodbye, since there&#039;s only one Republican alderman in the entire city of Chicago, according to a recent article in the Reader). But why kill one&#039;s chances of further political advancement in the larger world? How exactly is that a form of empowerment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blacks claim that racial discrimination is wrong. Yet, <em><strong>some</strong></em> blacks also claim that they are exempt from the obligation to speak correct English, on account of their skin color, whereas most of them seem to grasp the concept that there&#8217;s nothing particularly wrong with expecting white folks to speak and write in accordance with widely accepted grammatical standards in this country if they expect to get ahead (particularly in relation to standardized tests for college admissions).</p>
<p>In other words, such people advocate a double standard, which is just another way of saying that they advocate a form of racial discrimination. Ironically, when they insist on speaking &#8220;da&#8217; way dey do in da&#8217; hood&#8221; (as if the &#8220;th&#8221; sound is just too hard to make for black folks) and when they suffer the predictable consequences because speaking that way <em><strong>makes them sound stupid and uneducated to many potential employers</strong></em>, they then claim that they have suffered from racial discrimination, when the reality is that it is racially discriminatory to hold black folks to a different behavioral standard on account of their skin pigmentation. A similar phenomenon can be seen with regard to the constant use of certain types of profanity, such as the socially offensive word which refers to a person who commits maternal incest, and also to the &#8220;n word&#8221;, which one is apparently allowed to say if one is black, judging by the behavior of a lot of inner city black folks.</p>
<p>Thanks to the &#8220;one drop rule,&#8221; mixed race people such as Lena Horne and Halle Berry have often identified themselves as &#8220;black,&#8221; even though they sometimes have such light skin that they can easily pass as white. How are such people supposed to decide whether or not they&#8217;re allowed to use &#8220;ebonics&#8221;? What&#8217;s the rule of thumb? If you take an opinion poll and the majority says that one subjectively looks black or at least &#8220;black enough,&#8221; then ebonics is O.K. or even expected? Talk about arbitrary!</p>
<p>I grew up in the Ozarks. Some of the people there spoke in a grammatically proper manner (as did I, thanks in part to the good influence of my maternal grandmother, who was an English teacher). Others (some of whom might have been described as &#8220;hillbillies&#8221;) did not. But we didn&#8217;t call it &#8220;hillbonics&#8221; or anything of the sort. We called it improper grammar, because that&#8217;s what it was. It is a disservice to children to teach them that ebonics is acceptable, because whether one likes it or not, the decision makers in this country do judge by first impressions. Speaking ebonics suggests that a person never paid close attention in the classroom, if he or she even went to class at all.</p>
<p>I guarantee you that Barack Obama never would have been elected President if he&#8217;d spoken the way that a lot of the blacks in Chicago speak. Perhaps if he&#8217;d just wanted to be elected alderman in a predominantly black ward, folks there wouldn&#8217;t have cared (unless he&#8217;d been a Republican, in which case he could just about kiss his chances of election goodbye, since there&#8217;s only one Republican alderman in the entire city of Chicago, according to a recent article in the Reader). But why kill one&#8217;s chances of further political advancement in the larger world? How exactly is that a form of empowerment?</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
		<link>http://www.makestupidityhistory.org/2005/07/20/teaching-ebonics-in-school/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 01:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Brian, and I don&#039;t think the goal is to TEACH ebonics, but rather to use it as a foundation to guide ebonics speakers toward speaking &quot;standard&quot; English, which in my opinion is hardly standard. The English language is one of the most complex languages to teach people. It has and will continue to evolve just as long as people utilize it; the wide-spread use of ebonics is evidence of this evolution. In regards to Rick&#039;s comment, which is first on the list, if people were not so close minded, perhaps the issue of ebonics as its own language would never have been an issue in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Brian, and I don&#8217;t think the goal is to TEACH ebonics, but rather to use it as a foundation to guide ebonics speakers toward speaking &#8220;standard&#8221; English, which in my opinion is hardly standard. The English language is one of the most complex languages to teach people. It has and will continue to evolve just as long as people utilize it; the wide-spread use of ebonics is evidence of this evolution. In regards to Rick&#8217;s comment, which is first on the list, if people were not so close minded, perhaps the issue of ebonics as its own language would never have been an issue in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.makestupidityhistory.org/2005/07/20/teaching-ebonics-in-school/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really think kids should be taught improper English? That&#039;s ignorant within itself. Schools are a place for education and bettering ones self. A class that teaches children to talk in the worst way possible is just plain stupid. learning &quot;ebonics&quot; won&#039;t help you get a job. The only thing it will do is help you look completely and utterly ignorant like anyone who speaks that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really think kids should be taught improper English? That&#8217;s ignorant within itself. Schools are a place for education and bettering ones self. A class that teaches children to talk in the worst way possible is just plain stupid. learning &#8220;ebonics&#8221; won&#8217;t help you get a job. The only thing it will do is help you look completely and utterly ignorant like anyone who speaks that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Varg</title>
		<link>http://www.makestupidityhistory.org/2005/07/20/teaching-ebonics-in-school/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Varg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teaching Ebonics in the classroom is as ignorant and stupid as teaching Spanglish to Spanish speakers. This Article truly belongs in this website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teaching Ebonics in the classroom is as ignorant and stupid as teaching Spanglish to Spanish speakers. This Article truly belongs in this website.</p>
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